140 – One Google Executive Applies 10X Mindset to Improve Healthcare Outcomes

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A Google Healthcare Executive Joins Ultimate Guide to Partnering®

I was delighted to welcome back a dear friend and past guest, Andrea McGonigle – Google General Manager, Health & Life Sciences Partnerships & Strategic Initiatives for this episode of Ultimate Guide to Partnering®. Andrea shares how one Google Executive applies a 10X Mindset to improve healthcare outcomes in our discussion.

Andrea Leonard McGonigle serves as Google’s General Manager for Health & Life Sciences. In her role, she examines the industry’s issues and how Google can apply its roadmap to help bring solutions to the market. In 2014, Andrea was named by Mainline Today as one of 24 Power Women of the Main Line Area. In 2013 and 2012, Andrea was named by PharmaVoice as one of the top 100 influential people in Life Sciences. She serves on the board of the Philadelphia chapter of the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society and Drexel University’s MBA Board.

Andrea was an early guest on this podcast almost five years ago when she held a similar role at Microsoft.

What You’ll Learn

  • Andrea’s exciting role driving innovation in Healthcare at Google.
  • How she now applies a 10X Mindset to improve outcomes at Google.
  • Why clients choose Google and why partners should also consider Google.
  • Lessons for listeners from an amazing career journey.

I hope you enjoy this interview as I enjoyed welcoming a dear friend, Andrea McGonigle.

Why Listen?

This episode is for leaders looking to better understand Google’s approach to Health & Life Sciences transformation AND how Google applies principles such as 10X Mindset and OKRs (Objectives, Key Results) to driving outcomes and results. In this episode, Andrea McGonigle shares her career progression as a working mother and how she mentors other women in our industry and community.

Other Recent Episodes Featuring Google

126 – Hyper-Focus as a Growth Imperative to High-Performance Partnering with Tony Safoian of SADA.

107 – One Leader’s Focus, Taking Partnerships to the Next Level at Google.

97 – Focused Growth Investments, Google Premier Partners SADA’S Pioneering Alliance Program.

64 – Twenty Years, Leadership in Big and Meaningful Ways, with Tony Safoian, CEO of SADA.

For 2022, I am excited to announce PartnerTap as the Founding Sponsor of Ultimate Guide to Partnering. PartnerTap is the only Partner Ecosystem Platform designed for the Enterprise. Their technology makes it easy to align Channel Teams with automated account mapping, letting you control what data you share while building a partner revenue engine. I’m so excited to have them on board and for our exciting year ahead!

My organization, Ultimate Partnerships, is also a sponsor of this episode. Ultimate Partnerships helps you get the most results from your partnerships. Get Partnerships Right – Optimize for Success – Deliver Results – Ultimate Partnerships.

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SPEAKERS

Andrea McGonigle, Announcer, Vince Menzione

Andrea McGonigle  00:00

How’d you get a 10 times return? So it’s a whole different level and way of thinking. And it goes right down to how you start your day and all the processes that you have and run through, as well as the products as well as the problems in the industry. So for me that’s been eye opening, very insightful and has fundamentally made me think about innovation in a different way.

Announcer  00:24

Welcome to The Ultimate Guide to partnering in this podcast, Vince Menzione, a proven industry sales and partner executive brings together technology leaders to discuss transformational trends and to deconstruct successful strategies to thrive and survive in the rapid age of cloud transformation. And now, your host, Vince Menzione.

Vince Menzione  00:48

Welcome to or welcome back to The Ultimate Guide to partnering where technology leaders come to optimize results through successful partnering. I’m Vince Menzione, your host and my mission is to help leaders like you unlock the leadership principles and learnings of the best in the business to get partnerships right. Optimize for success and deliver your greatest results. At 10x mindset to you and your organization operate from a 10x mindset. I believe having a 10x or growth mindset is foundational to achieving your greatest results in partnering and in life. My next guest for the podcast is a dear friend Andrew McGonigal is the health and life science strategist at Google, and was an early guest on this podcast when she had a similar role at Microsoft. Andrew joins us to share what she’s learned about 10x mindset since joining Google lessons from her amazing career journey, and why partners should consider Google during this transformational time. I hope you enjoy this discussion as much as I enjoyed welcoming back. Andrea McGonigal. Before we dive into the interview, I’m happy to announce that partner tap has become a founding sponsor of ultimate guide to partnering. I’ve been friends with the founders of partner tap for many years. And partner tap is the only partner ecosystem platform designed for the enterprise. Their technology makes it easy to align channel teams with automated account mapping, letting you control what data you share while building a partner revenue engine. I’m so excited to have them on board. Andrea, welcome back to the podcast.

Andrea McGonigle  02:32

Thank you so much for having me events. I’m so excited to be back.

Vince Menzione  02:36

I am so excited to welcome you my friend, you are one of my favorite human beings. And we have a long story around Ultimate Guide to partner and you were an early guest Episode 17, we had the chance to work together very closely at Microsoft, in fact, and you have been, I would say both an inspiration and a mentor to me in many ways over the years. When I started this podcast, I’m delighted to welcome you back today.

Andrea McGonigle  03:02

Thank you, Vince, I’m really excited to be here. And yes, we have a great history that drives our passion around partners. And you’re being too kind about a mentor, you are a mentor to me when I was at Microsoft and really helped me think about what I want next in my career. So I’m so happy to see you following your passion and sharing all this great information with everyone, and really excited to be a part of it.

Vince Menzione  03:25

So you’ve had a really exciting ride. I’ve got to know you early on in your career, you are a health and life sciences strategist and thought leader and 18 months ago, you went from one rocket ship to another rocket ship and made the leap from leaving Microsoft strategy. Can you tell our listeners a little bit more about you and that exciting role for you at Google?

Andrea McGonigle  03:49

I think I keep saying everything twelves my magic number. I worked at Microsoft for 12 years. And before that I was actually at Merck for 12 years. So my passion was always healthcare and life sciences. And I love bringing technology together with that. And I really was looking at the market. And I could see the motivation of Google and I could see the inflection of people starting to think about Google. And because they were new to the space as far as meeting at the enterprise level at some of these same customers. I was intrigued, like, what were they doing? How are they coming into this market and making such a big splash. I’m a Constant Learner. I’m always striving for what’s next. So I thought I need to get over there and learn what they’re doing. And see how I can make an impact and bringing these passions together health and technology.

Vince Menzione  04:36

I’ve got to watch the rise of Google. Tony Savoy in SADA Systems has been a frequent guest here on the podcast. Because I’ve had Eric Rosencrantz on the podcast two times now. And I also have seen this amazing rise on the enterprise side and the investments that Google has made. So 18 months in roll What have you learned and what’s been the biggest aha moment Were you there?

Andrea McGonigle  05:00

I think the first thing is definitely like innovation. And people say Google’s an innovative company. But I don’t think I really understood what that meant. Until I was ingrained in the culture. And when I think about innovation, like I think before, I thought it was like, Oh, you have good products. And had he applied those products. Here, it’s so much a part of the culture, everything from process to how you look at things. And you actually make space to think innovatively. And everything is based on this culture of 10 times, like when you look at a problem, you’re not trying to fix 10% of the problem. If you turn the problem upside down on its head, how could you get a 10 times return. So it’s a whole different level and way of thinking. And it goes right down to how you start your day, and all the processes that you have and run through, as well as the products as well as the problems in the industry. So for me, that’s been eye opening, very insightful, and has fundamentally made me think about innovation in a different way. The second part of that is just change in general, I mentioned my path, when I’m been looking at this space and focused on the customers in this space have been passionate about the convergence of technology and healthcare. And to think of it through a different lens change, it doesn’t matter what company is, change feels so good. And I’m really excited of being a student again, and learning but applying the knowledge that I had from from my previous career paths.

Vince Menzione  06:32

I love what you have to say here. So the technology, you know, Eric has talked to me about this from an engineering culture perspective, Google. I mean, we all use Google. So we understand intuitively, the technology and things like Kubernetes that came out of Google from the work approach. I love what you had to say here, because also, I’m a big fan of OKRs and OKRs, were become a big part of Google. And now other organizations are really embracing OKRs objectives and key results as a as a way to monitor work as a way to distribute work out amongst a group and measure the results and milestones of results against that. And then just the change. So talk to me a little bit more about that last statement,

Andrea McGonigle  07:13

change, I think you do things a certain way, no matter whether it’s the best way or the worst player in between. When did you think so? Certainly, for so long. It becomes old hat old habit. And then it’s like, what am I really learning. And I think when I stepped out of that, and kind of started over i, it took me weeks, I can’t feel my shoulders drop and drop and drop. And I’m like, Well, wait a second. Let me learn more about this. Let me learn more about that. And I literally became a student again, in a whole new way that I hadn’t before. And I didn’t realize how badly I needed that and how good it felt to just think about problems in a different way. Because it’s everyone who’s in this space knows the problems that exist. But to use a different toolset to use a different mindset when you’re approaching the problems was refreshing for me.

Vince Menzione  08:06

You talked about flipping the problem on its head, which made me think a little bit about what we’re seeing. In fact, in the partner world today, we’re really seeing a disruption. We’ve seen this technology trends, transformation and disruption over the last few years accelerated through this COVID time. And now we’re also starting to see even the way organizations partner transforming. My friend Jay McBain has been on the podcast a few times has talked about this as the decade of the ecosystem, and that organizations are finally waking up to the fact that they need to collaborate more effectively with other organizations. So I love what you had to say here about flipping a problem on the head. Can you give me an example of that?

Andrea McGonigle  08:43

Sure. So it could be anything from the process or not you approach a customer, but I’ll speak to one particular one without naming the customer per se. But there was a collaboration between pharmaceutical companies who were looking at the new drug filing system, and what would need to be done to fundamentally change that. Streamline It COVID made us take it to a whole new level, right, the difference a few days a week or a month, can make and bring in a product market is huge. So what if we reimagined that? And that was one of the first projects I worked on when I was here. And to think about that. And in that new light of putting it on its head? How do you get a 10 times return? versus 10%? You think about companies, particularly in the pharma industry, right? They’re all about incremental moves and that traditional manufacturing mindset and to take a complete setback. Oh god, I love it. It’s it’s so fun to me. It’s what ignites me each day and to think that we could make a difference. And I don’t think it’s just the technology that can make the difference. I think it’s when technology’s in the background. You don’t know the difference that it’s there. But you start thinking about these problems differently to get the right outcome.

Vince Menzione  09:58

I love it. I’m thinking 10x mindset, I want to can we coined that term TEDx.

Andrea McGonigle  10:04

Google already did that Google uses it all the time as part of their culture and the way that we work and how we approach the problems.

Vince Menzione  10:13

I love it. I love it. I’m going to reuse this. So as this podcast focuses on helping technology leaders achieve their greatest results, working with the tech giants, and healthcare is such an important area of focus, the impact that we can have here, with modernizing with changing, we’ve all lived through this now. In fact, I’m using telemedicine now, we talked about how this time, like no other has rapidly transformed everything in our lives. And Google has advanced quite a bit in the last few years from an organizational perspective and learning to partner can you share with our listeners more about the investments that Google is making, both in the enterprise and technology level, and also in the partnering? So sure,

Andrea McGonigle  10:57

I think from a company perspective, Google and alphabet as the broader umbrella has been in healthcare for years, past 15 years, and they have investments exceeding $6 billion. And they have various operating investments, as well as extensive teams of experts and subject matter experts in this space. But the organization that I represent and work in is Google Cloud. And so specifically for Google Cloud, we’re looking at the transformation of healthcare, and how we can take data and help provide better outcomes. Across the board here, I really bring together the mission of Google across the board, which is to really make the world’s information universally accessible and useful. And we saw a lot of that play out what we want to meet people where they are. And when you think about it, consumers patients, when they’re thinking about their healthcare, where do they go first search? Yeah, we have the tools at that level. So I think from a consumer aspect, when you think about YouTube and assets like that, as well as Fitbit, it’s definitely the consumer side. So really investing on the cloud and back end pieces around products and offerings, to complement that to get us to the enterprise level, I’m really focused from an industry perspective and making that impact. And the mindset has definitely shifted, and I’m seeing a maturity around that here. I Google around partners. As we get deeper and deeper in industry, it becomes clearer and clearer how important partners are to this ecosystem, we’re not going to be in the business, you know, building every product and offering for healthcare. That’s not who we are. That’s not where we’re going. We want to accelerate it. And that means accelerating the partners and the partnerships as well. And we listen to what our customers doing. And today, some of the offerings and solutions that our partners are, that have built have made a huge impact in healthcare. And we want to look to see how we can invest our technology and some of the things we do and do really well and allow them to focus on what they do specific for healthcare, and put their funding and their money into that and really become more competitive on the market. As we build the backend infrastructure pieces, or some of the products and offerings such as for Kixeye contact center AI, different capabilities that we’re building that can be broadly applied

Vince Menzione  13:24

here. And I know Google has won some pretty significant accounts, some significant wins recently. Why did clients specifically and why should partners choose to work with Google?

Andrea McGonigle  13:36

Yeah, it’s I talked about it when we first got on to momentum is crazy. When I think about some of the big brand names like Ascension mayo and now HCA. I think the innovation factor is a big piece, but also the technology. I talked a little bit about vertex AI, but products that we come out with. It’s amazing to me, there’s a lot of transparency inside Google around products that are coming, people talk and say alpha beta, I don’t remember hearing those words before, right? And they say these products are coming in, do you think there’s some application to healthcare, so we get that ability to mold before the products are coming to market and they may or may not be healthcare specific, but find ways to solve some of the problems of health care, like the contact AI center, or content distribution warehouse and different products. And those, for example, hey, it doesn’t matter what Cloud you’re on. anthos can help you and host all those clouds and help bring some of that information. And then obviously, big one for us is HD healthcare data engine. How do we help people unlock that data? So it’s really combination of the innovation and technology and I think it’s a different way of thinking. And finally, I would say it’s that alphabet umbrella, right of the thought leadership that we have across the breadth of those products, as I mentioned, from consumer to enterprise and our ability to make an impact in this market. So specifically

Vince Menzione  15:00

for partners out there, how do they work more effectively with you and your team?

Andrea McGonigle  15:05

Yes, we have specific partner programs that I can definitely share links with, and how to reach out and get in touch with us. But absolutely, I want to hear about partners are making a difference in this space. We are at all the conferences and different events that are happening, watching the market. And we’re also proactively reaching out the partners. So I think both proactive and reactive, I’m happy to share links for how we how you learn more about the partner ecosystem, also working on some one to many events, where we’ll bring in healthcare partners and share broadly, what it means to be a partner, and the partner ecosystem and how you join it, etc. So more to come on that.

Vince Menzione  15:52

Can’t wait to hear more about that. So you’ve been a partner leader, and someone with very strong partner DNA for quite some time. In fact, when I first met you back in the Malvern office, you were in a partner development role, right? Yes, you were I think we called them Pam’s back

Andrea McGonigle  16:07

in the day, I was a PAM, you were Pam.

Vince Menzione  16:11

I’m so glad they got rid of that name. So, Andrea, because this is so in your DNA, what do you believe makes a successful partner for Google,

Andrea McGonigle  16:24

successful partner for Google as one that understands the mission critical systems of healthcare organization, whether it’s provider plans, or life sciences, and is looking to fundamentally disrupt or take that offering to the next level? Right now, it’s not status quo. You keep talking about this 10 times and thinking about it differently. I don’t want to have on on being honest, I don’t necessarily want to have discussions with people say, Do you want to be on a third cloud? That’s not a ton of value for anybody? That’s right. I want to have discussions around how do you fundamentally want to look at your roadmap, some of the products and offerings that we have, think in that 10x Thinking of how we can make you much more competitive in the market and meet the needs of our customers and patients across the board. You

Vince Menzione  17:13

don’t want to meet too, I think you’re saying here anyway, I love the fact that organizations that want to lead the disruption that want that 10x impact for their clients are the ones that need to build. And I see this right, I get to work with people like Tony Savoy, and I get to witness some of the work that others do around this area. So really great insights.

Andrea McGonigle  17:33

Now it is an AI as you said, it’s in my DNA, I absolutely love partners and understand how critical they are to the success of anything that we’re doing in healthcare specific solutions, etc. And their ability to be nimble and move quickly. And at the same time, make a difference. I really enjoy it. And I’m really excited to help build that here at Google. So all good stuff.

Vince Menzione  17:58

So more to come for partners to engage with you in the team. Yes, definitely. Absolutely. Any other parting before we move on to what we’re going to talk about next, which is career journey, and the like? Any other parting words for partners who wish to engage who wish to optimize for success working with Google?

Andrea McGonigle  18:17

It sounds stripe, just be yourself. Tell us who you are. Tell us how you’re making a difference. And I think one of the key things that I don’t see from partners, a lot of people focus on the technology. And then you think Google wants to focus on the technology on the healthcare team. Not necessarily I want to know the roadmap and how to get there and help improve that. But talk in numbers and ROI and impact for the customers and the patients. Because I mentioned earlier, we have the best outcomes when technology’s invisible. You

Vince Menzione  18:52

said it right outcomes, right? What are the results we want to go achieve together? So as you might know, being a former guest or past guest on the podcast, I’m fascinated with career journey. And I spend a lot of time helping leaders and I’ve met, as you mentioned, a mentor, some folks along the way. I believe that people are fascinated with the career journey and how you got to this spot in your career, Andrew, so talk to us a little bit about you. Is there a just cause that you are most passionate about until a little

Andrea McGonigle  19:25

bit about it? I think it’s a combination of a few things. I did say healthcare and technology, but also women in technology. So I’ll kind of go back on my story a bit. I went to Drexel University, before this program that was a combination of business and computers and was in the Co Op program. And I got my eyes open because you went into a company and for six months and it was a full time job and you made real money and you had real problems and real responsibilities and it really set you up for the future. of being competitive in the market getting good job but also being a student in a different way. And so right away I was I was in healthcare right away went to what was your healthcare, which is now Aetna was what my first job and then from there, I went to Merck. And while I was there, at Merck, I learned a lot. Because I was going through changes. Personally, I was getting married, I was having kids. I also always had in my mind from these first days at Drexel, hey, I want to move up the ladder, I want to make a difference in the space. And I want to have a career and I knew from the beginning, I wanted to do both have a career and have a family and there was so much discussion about can you have both? And so it really became my passion and cause to say, Okay, how do I help women in this space? What can I do? There were so many different days, and it was hard. And I was like, What should I do in this situation? So I started a blog, that working Queen Bee, where I talk about them jokingly, and a lot of ways some of the situations I got myself in, and how I had to pick between the two, many times. And I can’t get over how many times people said to me, Oh, this is happening, I literally would like a return to work if they’re having your first baby, my baby 16. That was a long time ago. But because I documented those things, I could literally send the person a blog post, and they’re like, this is exactly how I’m feeling I totally, and I’m like, and you’re gonna get through this and let her be kind to yourself and do these different things. So it’s been very helpful that way. And it’s led me to various passionate projects that I worked on at Microsoft, I led the women in Health Group and created it. And now I’ve working with Google to create the women in health group for Google, actually advisor, executive advisor to that group, which is all across Google. So I’m so excited about that. So it’s turned into this passion and cause women and I will say this, I we have lots of discussions about this, right? When we have women’s group and allies and men in the group, what should we do, then? You were an ally, before allies were cool. And before it was called an ally, you are every single women’s event. You were when you sit at the table and listen, you participated before anyone was even like, Hey, this is the company initiatives, etc. So I gotta call you out for that. Thank you.

Vince Menzione  22:27

Thank you so much. I’ve said this to people before, like, I would go to the women’s luncheon. And I remember, and the men would go, why can’t go there. That’s just for the women. Yeah. And I was like, because 50 60% of my team are women, and I need to learn, I need to understand and be compassionate to and understand their needs. And yeah, like you said, it’s basically I just Gabriela Schuster’s another person like yourself, that’s been very passionate around this area on ally ship. And we were just talking about this about a week ago. So thank you very much for that call up.

Andrea McGonigle  23:00

Yes, yes, it’s very important. And I think it’s a safe space for women to talk about issues they’re facing, but it is also so good. And I’m a big proponent of including men in the conversations for that very reason for education, just understand where people are coming from. I had another quick story there around this. We were talking one time, a group of leaders and we’re talking about somebody was going to be a manager, a manager role that was open, and somebody said, Hey, this person said, No, they don’t want to do it. They have a family, small kids, blah, blah, blah. And I just was like, stopped in my tracks. I was like, Wait a second. That’s the number one salesperson is the number one person who signed a partnership that is big press worthy and made a difference in health care. That is the most qualified person, let me have a conversation with them. And I sat down, I had a conversation with her. And we talked about balancing a family creating borders, like, hey, I can do this. And I can’t do this, no one to say no. And she was she changed her mind. And I said you can do both? And don’t miss up on this opportunity for it. Because do you want it? And she’s like, yes. And I said is this the only reason why you’re not doing it because you have a young family. And I’m like, you’re gonna find a way to make it work and we’re gonna make it work for you. That’s our obligation as a company, as a leadership team. And sure enough, she got the job and she’s killing it and doing great. So I really do carry this through the on these groups and parliamentary now part of that is being aware, as we talked about, right, if you’re one of those leaders in the room, I’m not saying convince people to do things they don’t want to do, but double click on some of these issues.

Vince Menzione  24:39

First off, we this technology sector is still very much a white male dominated sector and we need to do everything possible to balance that out. There’s so much great talent, as you said, having that conversation with that individual around and I think also we’ve learned during this time like no other that it’s not a it’s not a sitting at a desk for 40 hours. is eight hours a day? Yeah, like peep, some people can get the same amount of work done in three to four hours. Mm hmm. And actually be more effective than somebody sitting at a desk for eight hours, you know, we can get butts in seats back in the day, right? I just think the philosophy like the mindsets changing around what is impact, and as you mentioned OKRs, earlier, I think OKRs allow you to measure results versus hours expended. And

Andrea McGonigle  25:24

you can do that and the time and the timeframes that needed. And even like I was saying, create boundaries. I remember I said, when I was I think I was at Microsoft at the time. And I spoke about that. And I said, Hey, I stopped work at 430. And back then, like that was on him. They were, I literally felt like a gas. And I caught myself, maybe I shouldn’t have said that out loud. Like I just put the X on my career here moving forward. And I was like, my kids get off the bus at this time, I have two little kids, I need to stop at that point. Talk to them, see how their day was with and make dinner and which I’m not a good cook. But anyway, be with it in that short time, but they went to bed relatively early still. And I would set the expectation I said from the beginning with my manager, this is what I’m going to do. And then at night when they go to bed at eight o’clock, if I need to, I would get back online, I would prepare for the next day. And that’s how I created my boundaries early. And I remember people just come to me like, You’re the girl who told everybody to leave work. That’s me. Yes. It’s funny that you said today, people won’t even think twice about that, right?

Vince Menzione  26:35

Not at all. Not at all. Well, we’ve all learned to apply grace to our lives, right? I was on a team call yesterday, and the individual that I work with daughter came and gave her a big hug, like we’re on the Team Skull with a 25 people client. And I think it’s this great that we get to share our personal lives. Now.

Andrea McGonigle  26:56

I agree. I agree. The lines are blurred on both sides. There’s no turning back now.

Vince Menzione  27:02

Absolutely. So was there a best piece of advice along the way, whether it was Microsoft, Google Merck, even, in fact, in the earlier days of your career,

Andrea McGonigle  27:13

I definitely think like creating boundaries was a good one. I’ve, I think I’ve spoken to this before, but when I was talking about my career aspirations, I would say hey, I want I want to be a certain level in the company, I want to get to this title. And one of my bosses at the time, he was male, and he said, You have to start creating this different level of executive presence. And I was like, how am I gonna do that? Any kind of coaching me around that. One of the things he said was, join a board, join a board, you want to board I said, I can’t even think straight with the responsibilities I have. How am I going to join a board and give someone else more of my time. And he was like, create boundaries, tell them you can give them three hours a month. And only time yourself, make sure you don’t get more than that. And guess what? It’s gonna work out. And I was like, I don’t know. And I did it. And guess what it did work. It was creating those boundaries to make these things possible. And quite frankly, it was so good for my career, I met the CEO of all different companies throughout the tri state area, I got this different exposure, I was able to raise money for a great cause. It took me to a whole new level of growth that I’ve talked about being a student, changing your environment so that you continue to learn. And it really was some great advice for me to get on board and get some others external skills. But creating boundaries was the key piece,

Vince Menzione  28:36

creating boundaries, I think, strikes back to me the Steven Covey analogy of the rocks, pebbles and sand that you fit in a jar. You create a room for a rock, and B probably just had less room for the sand and the pebbles. Yeah, so we’re gonna have a little bit of fun. Angie, this has been a great conversation. I think it’s getting close to where we need to have a little fun. Okay, sounds good. So you’re stuck on an island now. I don’t wish this on anyone. But I’m thinking Tom Hanks and castaways here you can pick only five songs to bring along with you on a playlist for this time on this island. Hopefully it’s not too long. Not as long as Tom Hanks. What are the five songs you would bring with you and why? Oh,

Andrea McGonigle  29:23

that’s a good one. A really good one. I like to think I like have different tastes all different things are all over the place. I think one of the first ones I would pick would be like a Kenny Chesney song I love Kenny Chesney when I think about an island and the sun at a beach so to be in the vibe, whether it’s tequila or one of his other songs that I really like, can he have that Kenny Chesney on that playlist?

Vince Menzione  29:53

You’re gonna pick one song we’re gonna say tequila,

Andrea McGonigle  29:56

I think you and tequila Yeah, I think that would have yet Mm hmm. All

Vince Menzione  29:59

right. Well, guys tequila on the list. Okay,

Andrea McGonigle  30:01

and then that island vibe. You gotta have some Yara for that island vibe going with island by theme. So I would say something like brandy or Michael McDonald. But yeah, I love got rock in the sun. And then I am Irish. And I love my Irish culture and music. I would definitely have to have an Irish on I would There’s a song called Tell Me math. It’s actually like, Irish isn’t like a nursery rhyme that they turned into a song. And it’s about a kid who lives in Belfast. And that’s where I was born. But it’s one of my favorite Irish songs. So I would definitely have that on the list.

Vince Menzione  30:39

And that’s tell me ma,

Andrea McGonigle  30:41

tell me, man, I bet no one will ever say that.

Vince Menzione  30:45

Oh, I want to find this song. So we get out of here.

Andrea McGonigle  30:48

Yes, you got it. You got to put the Irish dancing in with it. And let me see. I think I would definitely have to pick another audition. One that reminds me of my dad, my dad passed away about about a year and a half ago around the same time that I not long after I left to come to Google. And one of his favorite songs was sweet 16 by the Furys. And on back when I was growing up on Saturdays, they had an Irish hour on the radio because that’s what you did you listen to the radio. So Saturday mornings, I think was like nine o’clock, there was an Irish shower and the musical play from nine to 10. And our whole house like my mom would be clean, everyone be doing their thing. It was the day that my dad was off of work on a Saturday morning. And Irish music would be playing through the house. And then my dad would go through his albums of all Irish music and play them. So I definitely have memories of my childhood, listening to the Furys on Saturday morning and house being clean the windows open, and just all about families and reminds me of my father. So that would be one and then more upbeat and fun and party like I like to I would have to say like Rihanna and Drake. I love that song. Take care. It’s a collaboration between Rihanna and Drake, and that would definitely keep me dancing on that island.

Vince Menzione  32:06

So Briana and Drake. Take care. I love it. I love this list. Andrea.

Andrea McGonigle  32:11

Thank ya.

Vince Menzione  32:12

Thank you so much. I think we lost. You lost your dad around the same time I lost my mom.

Andrea McGonigle  32:17

That’s right. That’s right.

Vince Menzione  32:20

Yeah, I I understand your how you feel. So

Andrea McGonigle  32:23

yes. Now it’s just our job to make them proud. Exactly. They’re continuing to make them proud

Vince Menzione  32:28

of me to make. So Andrea, I want to thank you, you have been your first of all, you’re an amazing friend and human and just loved getting to spend some time with you. And it’s been a long time. And I hope to see you again soon in person. Yeah. Maybe I’ll come to one of your partner events.

Andrea McGonigle  32:45

Sounds good. Yes. I would love to have you and I’ll definitely keep you in mind for that in the future. And I want to thank you i the podcast has been amazing. Your passion for partner shines through. You’re really established yourself as a leader in this space vents. And you’re so genuine and it speaks volumes that you’re at what this is 140 Didn’t

Vince Menzione  33:06

you say word episode 140

Andrea McGonigle  33:09

speaks volumes 140 people and you keep going. So thank you. Thank you for doing that for the community and for everyone involved. Appreciate it.

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